DADDY FINDERS

This is a non for profit group run by Barbara Mason & Mick McNulty. 

There are children who want to find their birth parents and there are birth parents trying to find their children. My advice to them is to get DNA tested with Ancestry DNA.
                                                                                                                               mmcn 2018
Why we formed and what we do.

Along with Cathy Grey from Ottawa, Ontario I had helped Barbara to find her birth father using DNA and genealogy during this period we became good friends and after the celebrations were over, Barbara and I decided we should help others to achieve their dream. 

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When I was going to Scotland’s People at the Mitchell Library, on the search for Barbara’s dad, I used to say to Barbara  that I was going on a Daddy Hunt. So when we needed a name for this  group ”Daddy Finders” seemed as good a name as any. What we do is pretty simple, we help people who are looking for their birth parents  using DNA and Genealogy.

We have been doing this since 2017 and have found helped over 90 people to find their birth parents, we are currently working on another 30 cases, 13 of which are very close to conclusion and the remainder are at various stages of the process.

How it’s done

If someone wants us to help them all they need  to do is buy an Ancestry DNA kit, do the test, invite us to the test results and we will work on the results.  In most cases  people will know one parent  so I would start of by doing a family tree  for that person,
If you make a tree for a known parent, it cuts the work load in half and when that is done, we can attach DNA to members of that tree then the unattached DNA by default, should be the unknown parents DNA matches. We have solved cases where no parent was known but it is easier with a known parent.

Our success rate is about 85% the missing 15% equates to three cases  that have been on going for over a year but we haven’t given up on any of them.

You do not need to know anything about who you are looking for, it helps if you do  but don’t let it stop you if you don’t know.

 

What we do

Barbara runs the  organisational side of Daddy Finders, clerical, fundraising, banking and setting up meetings  with related organisations, basically she set the charity up and runs it. I do the DNA research.

We run a Facebook Page, Daddy Finders, Helping Adoptees to Find Their Birth Parents.

We have over 350 members This works as a self help group where people can talk openly about their feelings and expectations, Barbara is exceptionally good at dealing with this side of things  when people make their fist contact she knows they may have had to pluck up the courage to do this, she puts her own experience to good use and people instantly confide in her.

She tells them what we do and how we do it and she speaks openly about her trials and tribulations and they reciprocate. She just  seems to take everything in her stride. This part of what we do is just as important as actually finding the person.

I was not adopted but everyone I speak to that has been, whether or not they had good or bad experiences, all seem to have similar feelings and thoughts, this Facebook Page gives them an opportunity to speak openly with each other in a post or a one to one PM  or in a group PM the feedback is very positive and that is down to Barbara.
Most of our work comes via the Facebook Page.
We have helped people from the UK, Ireland, USA, Canada Jamaica, Australia and New Zealand.

In the last 3 years we have reunited over ninety people with their birth parents.

There is no charge for our work as we think it is wrong to put a financial barrier on someone trying to find their parent or child. Everything costs  money, so  donations are  more than welcome as there are overheads to be paid for.

Please contact us at daddyfinders@mail.com

Link to Some of our success stories.

 

 

 

Nancy Giambalvo

The cases  we work on are researched in strict confidence.

One of the cases I am working on has a link to Partick & Whiteinch and the person concerned as asked me to ”go public” with it to try and get it resolved.

Nancy Giambalvo was born in New York, She was brought up by who she thought were her parents, a Jewish couple, from New York. She never felt Jewish for some reason she had always felt Irish. Without going into detail, it turns out that she was born illegitimate and her mother was told by the hospital staff that the child had died and that the hospital  staff would take care of the childs body.

The truth was the baby, Nancy had been born healthy and she was sold to her adoptive parents. Her adoptive parents knew nothing about this side of the story and the money they paid was said to be for ”overheads”. In recent years with the development of DNA it is staring to become clear that selling children, was not such an uncommon practice. There has been a Long Lost Families, USA series done on this subject a few months ago.

A number of years ago Nancy DNA tested with Ancestry and set out to trace her birth parents. The DNA was indicating Irish ancestry pointing specifically to Mayo and Donegal. She tracked down her maternal line and again without going into great detail she has been reunited with her maternal  half siblings and cousins from New York and Mayo.

She then traced her father, Michael Eugene Connor, unfortunately he had died. We traced his life with his birth certificate, his marriage certificate then his immigration at Ellis Island New York.

A family tree has been made for him, he was born in 1918  at 5 James Street, now Ferrryden Street, Whiteinch, Glasgow, he died in New York in 1987. His mother Mary Ann Campbell was born in Belfast in 1879, she married Stephen Duffy in 1900, they had 5 children. Mary Ann’s husband, Stephen died in 1909.

We have traced the descendants of these five children in the United States using DNA and Genealogy and Nancy has been in contact with them. Nancy also has maternal relatives in the Glasgow and United States  from her mothers sister Georgina Campbell’s marriage to Hugh Doherty. Georgina was born 1885 died 1923. Hugh and Georgina had five children Rose, Georgina, Hugh, Thomas and Stephen they were brought up in 101 Medwyn Street and lived there in the 1940s they then moved to Partick. There is no DNA to this family other than the Campbell line and the relatives mentioned are helping us with the research.

101 Medwyn Street would be at the corner of Inchlee Street and would have faced the old Police Office.

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I found this part of the search quite strange because I was in the situation where I have a woman who lives 3,500 miles away, in New York, asking me to help her trace her grand father and if I  look out of my front window I look on to the street where her father was born and if I look out of my back window I can see the street where her fathers cousins  lived.

From the birth certificate, wedding certificate and death certificates we could establish that Michael had been adopted by Michael Connor and Charlotte Louden who had lived at 33 William Street, Anderson,  both of them were born in 1874 so they would have been around 50 at the time of the adoption, this seems a bit old for a normal adoption, it could be a family relative was involved, although as of yet there is no DNA trace to this couple. Michael and Charlotte’s family and relatives were added to the family tree.

In the 1911 census they had moved from Glasgow were living at 20 Hillhead, Kirkintilloch they had  six children, William, Sarah and Charlotte Hugh Anne and Margaret.

Nancy’s father, Michael Eugene Connor and Catherine Scullion married in St Ninnian’s, Kirkintilloch in 1946.  Catherine Scullion was born in Kirkintilloch in 1926 her parents were, William Scullion and Anne Christie they lived at 10 John Street and Broomhill House Kirkintilloch. William and Anne were the grandparents of Nancy’s half sibling Michael.

Catherines parents and relatives were added to the family tree. I have  a feeling someone from this family might know of the adoption as Michael used both his birth names Duffy and Campbell and his adoptive name Connor in his marriage certificate.

As far as the family tree and searching goes, that is where we are.

My feeling is something links the adoptive parents and the mother, Mary Ann Campbell and as of yet there is no DNA link, it could be one of their children are somehow involved or it could be a family link to Partick & Whiteinch. I think  it is possible Michael Connor knew Hugh Doherty who lived in William street at the same time as the Connors around 1901. I am not suggesting anything is wrong with this but I think that’s the way things were done back in the day.

The DNA points to the father coming from Donegal. When we have DNA matches we look at the family trees of the matches and there are generally clusters of common names and places.

In this case the names highlighted by the DNA matches are Mcgunnigle / Mcgonigle, Bradley, Lafferty, Durnin, Doherty/ Docherty Mclaughlin Brennan Brennan and Mullen the places were the matches came from can also be identified in the same way. The DNA high value DNA matches to Donegal  all come from within a ten mile radius of Carndonagh. One of these matches, Stephen Tauriello, from New York, was known to me I had found his birth father some months previous, he was a second cousin x 1 removed which meant that he and Nancy shared a pair of great great grand parents, Stephens great great grand parents were Lafferty & Mclaughlin, Bradley & Mcgonigle/ Mcgunnigle, they came from  Carndonagh  and the surrounding area of Donegal. From this I know, Nancy’s  father will be fairly closely related to these families.

As Nancy’s father was born in Whiteinch the likelihood is that his father also lived in the  Partick / Whiteinch area around 1917 and he or his parents came from the Carndonagh area of Donegal.

You might think why would anyone want to go to the all of bother to find this information out now,  In the three years I have been doing this I have found that there is an inherent desire for a high percentage of adopted people to find their roots, it is something that they just need to know, it’s there and it doesn’t go away. It is not our intention to upset anyone we try and be careful and considerate  but Nancy needs answers to her questions.

If your family came from this area and you are connected to these families, please contact me daddyfinders@mail.com I would probably do a family tree which I would share with you and Nancy would pay for a DNA test if we thought we could prove the connection was there.

If you know anyone that is searching for a birth parent tell them they contact us at daddyfinders@mail.com The Ancestry test kit costs around £80 the research is free.

The cases  we work on are researched in strict confidence.

MMcN  7/ 1 / 2020

 

 

Joanne’s Story

Joanne found her mother a number of years ago, her mother told her that her father’s name was Karl / Carl Davies he was born around 1946, he was Catholic and worked for Mowbrey Engineering in Blackpool and he was into motorbikes. Karl Davies told the mother that his  mother was Welsh and father was of German descent.

Joanne DNA tested and half of the results tie in with her maternal side I worked this first it was fairly straightforward. Once that was done we are left by default with Patenal DNA the fist thing that became clear was that the DNA does not fit in with the father being of Welsh / German descent.

What the DNA is telling me is that Joanne’s paternal grandmother’s parents were Thomas John Mclear b 1884 Liverpool and Ann Young b 1882  Birkenhead. This DNA is solid I have DNA relatives to both of them and their parents,  so one of Thomas John Mclear and Ann Young’s children, is a parent of Joanne’s father and therefore, Joanne’s grandparent.

The DNA results are also pointing to the other grandparent being American.

Her top match on this line is Betty Drexell she shares 91 cms of DNA which suggests a relationship of 2nd cousin x 1 removed, which means they share great grand parents. Betty Drexell’s line is Robert John Hughes and Mary Grossell, Robert John Hughes also married  Mary Carson, we have numerous 3rd and fourth cousin DNA lines running to the children and grandchildren of Robert John Hughes and both mothers.

We also have multiple separate lines of DNA running to  Robert John Hughes’ grandparent’s James Hughes and Margaret Fullerton who moved to Chicago from  Grey Abbey, County Down both were born in Scotland.  These DNA lines prove to me that this is the line.

The DNA to  both the Hughes family and the McLear family is conclusive. I suspect the grandfather was named Hughes from Chicago, of Irish / Scots decent and he was in the American military and that the grandmother was of  the Mclear / Young family

When the grandparents names are defined like this I would normally rule out Karl Davies but I can’t find a Mclear child being born to a Mclear mother or a Hughes child being born to  Mclear mother, around this time. So it  is possible that that child was adopted and is indeed Karl Davies. One way to prove this is to find Karl Davies and to get him to take a DNA test.

There are four  possible Mclear women who could be Joanne’s  grandmother, two have been ruled out we need to find descendants of the remaining two and compare their DNA share. Once we can find her grandmother we should find out about her father and his half siblings.

We don’t want to upset anyone we don’t want to cause trouble in another family but Joanne has been trying to find her answers for half of her life, she is entitled to know who she is.

Please contact us with any information by e mail to daddyfinders@mail.com

 

 

 

How It’s done

How it’s done

If someone wants us to help them to find a parent the first thing that we do is to find out what they know. There are generally three scenarios they have been adopted, they have been bought up in care or they have been brought up  by one of their parents.

The situation nowadays is that it is generally quite easy to find out who the mothers are,  in the case of adoption or being brought up in care, there would be an adoption pack where that information of the mother and sometimes the father, is available, we would help the person to get this adoption pack .

I would get them to DNA test with Ancestry as this in my opinion is the best site for this type of work. The test costs about £80 and the DNA is extracted from the persons saliva. The test results take about six to eight weeks to come through.

When we have obtained the mothers name, either from the Adoption pack or from first hand knowledge , I would do a family tree for the the maternal line, this is generally straightforward. We have a World Wide Membership for Ancestry from which we would generally find  the mother’s family. Once we have the information on  her parents, the grand parents  we then get try to get the tree back to 1911 and once there it is fairly simple to gather information  from the census reports and other family trees that can be viewed. By the time the test results come back I would expect to have a maternal tree done, back to at least great, great grand parents.

When the results are analysed they are checked against the  world wide data base of other people who have tested. (Some people think you need to test with a known member of the family, this is not the case) the DNA matches are listed from closest match to distant.

The measure of DNA shared is counted in Centi Morgans, CMS.  The amount of CMS shared determines what the relationship is between the two people. Without going into great detail it is fairly easy to work out what the relationship is from the CMS value shared.                                                                                                                                                    A parent would be in the region of 3,500 cms a half sibling would be about 1,700 a cousin would be about ,1,000. The reality is that the most common workable DNA shares  are second third and fourth cousins. a second cousin would be about 250 cms,  a third about 80 cms and fourth cousins about 30 cms. So at a glance I have a fair idea what I am dealing with. in normal life, second, third and fourth cousins wouldn’t  be considered as close family, in genealogy they are the keys that unlock the doors.

This is a handy chart for beginners to follow DNA amounts.

Shared dna chart

 

So basically up to this point it is mathematical with the DNA share dictating the relationship. DNA share is a binary system in that you are 100% of your self 50% of your parents, 25% of each of your grandparents 12.5% of each of your g grandparents  6.25 % of each of your gg grandparents and 3.125% each of your ggg grandparents and this just rides into infinity.

dna percentage

It may well explain why family members  are they same but different as brothers and sisters share the same value of DNA but it is not the same  particular part of percentage of the ancestor we share. Once I grasped this, it explained quite a bit about about the make up in families looks and personalities.

So having done a tree for the maternal line, I would work out what DNA matches attach to the the maternal side. This would become apparent as they would have the same names on their tree as I had on mine. Once I have established the close maternal match,  there is a feature on Ancestry where you can test between two people and it lists common matches to both of them . I would use this test and test between both the person I am helping and the match I am working with,  this would give me a batch of maternal DNA relatives I would colour code them pink. This results in the maternal  DNA  matches being identified. 

Having  established the maternal family matches, the remaining matches should be, by default, be paternal. There are circumstances when paternal and maternal cross match but this would stand out on the colour coding  basically there would be pink and blue matches and I would immediately know we had a problem. There are measures for dealing with this situation but at this point I will for now, keep it simple.

I then move on to the Paternal.

We know that the remaining high matches not being a maternal match must be paternal.

I look at the top matches with trees and look for common people in their trees this generally results in common great great grand parents being identified.

Having now established great great  grandparents on one line of  the paternal. The children of the great, great grandparents are possible great grandparents. You would then identify their children  and bring the tree forward. So for example, if they had four children, you would find their spouses and their children. Once you had found the names of the  spouse’s parents,  you would check their names and look in your matches for matches that share both of the spouce’s parents names. This is like looking for a common denominator when the common denominator is found  it produces the next generation, the first set of paternal great grandparents

You would then repeat this, finding the great grand parents children and their spouces  you would look for the spouce’s parents names among your top matches once this common denominator is found this would result in identifying the grandparents.  The process would be repeated again the grandparent would be found and one of their children would  be by default the parent. This is over simplified as I would be checking other lines and DNA matches but this is the basic process. It is a process of elimination. there would be a test required at this point.

If i were doing your family tree I would start with you and work my way back, in this process you start from the back and move forward.

The  DNA Matches.

About 33% of the DNA matches have a family family tree attached to them, some are open to view some are closed. I have a standard letter, explaining that we are a charity, what we do, how we do it, and explain how they relate to the person they DNA match with. I would ask them to share their DNA results or open their family tree or both. In the main if they answer, its positive.  This is a standard letter that is adapted the more info I have the more I would give.

My name is Mick Mcnulty I am from Glasgow, I run a charity, Daddy Finders, we help adoptees to find their birth parents.
I am  currently helping  ……… …………  who  is trying to trace her father You share around 100 cms which suggests you share gg grandparents with her Could you please allow me access to your family tree so that I can identify the common match.
Any information you may have could be very important. Anything I find out about your family I will share with you. I would be quite happy to share DNA with you.
I would be good to link up all the matches. Here is a link to my blog it explains what we do and how we do it.
Best regards Mick

The TV program Long Lost families has been a godsend in that people are now open to the fact that there are people out there who don’t know who they are and as a result of this there is generally someone in a family that is willing to help.

How to Share Your DNA on Ancestry

When I am trying to trace someone the person that has tested needs to share their DNA with me.

It is very a simple thing to do.

Go to your ancestry account,  on the top left hand side click DNA.

Then on the top right hand side, click settings,

Scroll down to the bottom and click, Sharing Preferences,

DNA Ethnicity and Matches

Click Change

Add a person

Insert the person’s E mail address

For this ours is midgetgem1966@hotmail.com

Select collaborator as this allows me to colour code the matches.

Then send the invite.

You should always join Gedmatch

I have a post explaining how to do this.

 

 

Guide To Up Loading Your DNA to Gedmatch

Gedmatch is a great tool for genealogists but it is a ”must have” when looking for a birth parent. when you get your ”gedmatch number ”  add it to your family tree name that way people will automatically know you are serious about what you are doing.

Basically people upload their ”Raw DNA ”  from whichever site it they have used generally, Ancestry,  23&me or FTDNA. Along with their DNA they attach their e mail address.

People who upload to Gedmatch in the main, are genealogists who are prepared to help, so the response rate  to ”sent e mails of inquiry” is fairly high.

So how to upload your DNA.

I think it is easiest to download your DNA from your specific DNA site first. I will explain how to do this using Ancestry.

Once you have signed into your ancestry account.

Click the DNA tab between Search and Help.

Then click Settings.

On the right you will see  the headline ”Settings”

Click Download your Raw DNA

A ”pop up ” will appear

Put in your ”ancestry password”  and tick the box below.

Click ”Confirm”

An e mail will be sent, go to your email

Click ”Confirm data download” on the e mail sent to you.

This will take you back to your ancestry site,

Click  Confirm Download Raw DNA.

Click Download Raw DNA

The DNA will Down Load to your device.

Then go to  gedmatch.com

Click Generic Upload ”Fast”

Ignore Click here for detailed upload instructions

You will see your e mail address

Below that put in your name.

Below that put in your username.

Tick the  select your sex box

Miss out the next two boxes.

Select ”yes”

Click ”Chose File”

Select the file you downloaded it will be dna-data 2017……

Click ”Upload”

It will take a few minutes.

you will be given a  seven number code similar to this

A5591++

This is your gedmatch code.

Pour yourself a drink ….you are on gedmatch!

It will take a day or so for the DNA to be assessed.